Thrace

From: george knysh
Message: 12560
Date: 2002-03-01

Rex wrote earlier:
"Thracian tribal groups..both banks of the Danube.
They also incorporate a river name..North of the
Danube..listed as Thracian by H."

*****GK [NEW] Which river name would that be>******

Rex: Athrys ?

***GK: Dear Rex. Pay attention. The Athrys flows "from
Thrace and the country of the tribe of Thracians
called Crobyzi" (Herodotus). News flash: The Crobyzi
lived SOUTH of the Danube. Cf. Strabo, 7.5.12: "After
the country of the Scordisci, along the Ister, comes
that of the Triballi and the Mysi (whom I have
mentioned before), and also the marshes of that part
of what is called Little Scythia which is this side
the Ister (these too I have mentioned). These people,
as also the Crobyzi and what are called the
Troglodytae, live above the region round about
Callatis, Tomis, and Ister. Then come the peoples who
live in the neighborhood of the Haemus Mountain and
those who live at its base and extend as far as the
Pontus--I mean the Coralli, the Bessi, and some of the
Medi and Dantheletae."

*****GK Thracian Kings met at the Ister (Danube).
Which is
O-: logical since that was the boundary between
Scythia
O-: and Thrace in his time.******

REX: Only at the Delta mouth..why is that difficult
for you to grasp?

*****GK: Probably for two reasons: (1) Because the
Prut is a Scythian river, and runs into the Danube
much to the west of the delta; and (2) Because Scythia
was bounded on the landward side north of the Danube
not by Thrace but by the land of the Agathyrsi.****

That is
south..there is also a west with the SAME people.

*****GK: Clearly if Thrace is Scythia's neighbour to
the "west and south", but Scythia is bounded on the
landward side after the Danube not by Thrace but by
the Agathyrsi, then "to the west and south" means
"southwest". Elementary and in line with everything
else Herodotus has to say.***

It is not logical
that he of what ever spelling

*****GK: Poor Scylas...And he the son of a Greek from
Thrace too...*****

was both in Thrace and not in Thrace at
the same time. He was in Thrace. (one) He was
pursued (two) and found
N. of the Danube with an entire Thracian army.
(three). Thrace is N.
of the Danube AND south the Danube.

*****GK: Scylas fled to Thrace. Which means he fled
across the Danube (one) Octamasades pursued and "made
contact with the Thracian forces on the Ister". Which
to any reasonable person means "at the border", the
Thracians being south and the Scythians north of the
Danube.******









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