Re: Accepted cognates of Arya?

--- In cybalist@..., "caraculiambro" <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
>
> > And if you assure me so as a linguist I must of course accept

that

> > Germanic *ala- "true, real" is not borrowed from or otherwise
> related
> > to Alanic *ala- < PII *arya- "true, real" (which also is great

for

> > compounds). Maybe we should ask one of those historians?
>
> Where, except in your mind's eye, have you seen Alanic *ala- 'true,
> real'? No Iranian language I know anything about (not even post-
> Alanic Ossetic) uses *arya- as a prefix with this meaning. They

have

> quite different words for 'true, real', most importantly *hant-

/*hat-

> < *(h1)sont-/*(h1)snt-. I see no reason to divorce prefixal *al-a-
> from adjectival *alla- < *al-na- in Germanic.
>
> Piotr

I'm sorry. You're right, I replaced "noble etc" with "true, real", so
it would look more symmetrical.
So, did I understand you correctly that you want to stake your
reputation as a linguist that Germanic *ala- "true, real" is not
borrowed from or a cognate of Alanic *ala- < PII *arya- "noble etc"?

Torsten