Re: [tied] Digest Number 792

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 12365
Date: 2002-02-15

No idea. Antonsen's suggestion (or rather shot in the dark) in _The Oldest Runic Inscriptions_ is *er- (*h1er-) 'arise'; he adduces Baltic *erelis/*arelis 'eagle' (one would have to add Slavic *orIlU), which most people, I think, would connect with Germanic *arn- instead (PGmc. *h3or-(e)n-), certainly unrelated to *erilaz. The truth is, *er- is too uncharacteristic to be easily interpretable.
 
The suffix in the "earl" word is actually found in different shapes as well (-il-, -ul-, -l-). Similarly, the "churl" word is *karilaz or *karlaz. We have the same "suffix ablaut" in Gmc. -in-/-an-/-un-, and in -ung-/-ing-. The unstable medial vowel may have resulted from the random lexicalisation of what was once inherited apophony (*-elo- or *-i-lo-, *-l.lo- or *-H-lo-, *-lo-); there is similar random variation in Slavic diminutives (*-I-k- ~ *-U-k-). The oldest known forms of both "earl" and "churl" have *-ila- (cf. Fin. karilas 'old man', borrowed from very early Germanic, Old Runic [virtually = Proto-NW Germanic] erilaz), so it's arguable that forms like <erl-> and <erul-> are secondary. PGmc. *erilaz could reflect earlier *er-elo- or *er-i-lo-. An earl was a "sub-king" in historical times, and I think the contrast with *karilaz may provide some kind of etymological cue (*er- vs. *kar-), though I don't know what to make of it yet. *karilaz is thought by some to be related to *g^erh2- 'to age, grow old' and *g^erh2-ont-/*g^erh2-o-s 'old man' (thus in the EIEC, for example), but the Germanic vocalism is suspect (*g^orh2-elo-s would be aberrant, IMO). Both words remain somewhat enigmatic.
 
Piotr
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark DeFillo
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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Digest Number 792

Piotr wrote:
>The etymology and original meaning of *erilaz (< *er-elo-s ?) are
> >uncertain. Old Runic formulaic <ek erilaz ...> is routinely translated
> >as 'I, the runemaster, ...' or alternatively as 'I, the >nobleman, ...'.
>Germanic cognates (OE eorl, OM jarl, OSax. erl) are >social rank or status
>terms ('earl, warrior, high-born'). I suspect >*erilaz formed an antonymous
>pair with *karilaz 'man, free peasant, >farmer' (ON karl, OE ceorl.

What do you think is the most likely derivation for the "*er-"?

~Mark