Re: [tied] [pieml] Re: IE: likely home, India

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 12051
Date: 2002-01-15

The ante-PIE state of things (I mean the "origin" of the PIE vowel system) is a a matter of speculation and debate. Not so the Indo-European quality of *e. The vowel is normally reflected as mid-low to mid-high front /e/ in Old Hittite, Greek, Italic, Celtic, Germanic (with a partial shift to /i/), Slavic, Baltic and Armenian. It causes the palatalisation of various consonants in several branches and individual languages. Tocharian and Albanian show complicated developments, but these are strictly local affairs, and the reflexes in question point to a mid front vowel as well (consonants are palatalised before it in both branches) *e. In Indo-Iranian the reflex is /a/, but again velars are palatalised before it. Being a former schwa-like vowel is not enough to cause palatalisation in IIr at least, where velars are _not_ palatalised before any /i/ that reflects syllabic laryngeals or epenthetic vowels.
 
To sum up, the comparative evidence for *e = /e/ is absolutely overwhelming. Only someone with an urgent non-linguistic agenda could have a reason to ignore it. The lapse of time between the disintegration of PIE and the Indo-Iranian merger can only be guessed at, but must have been pretty long. My private estimate is ca. 2500 years or slightly more. There is no reason to suppose that during that period the vowel was anything else but /e/-like (middish front).
 
Piotr
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: tgpedersen
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: [tied] [pieml] Re: IE: likely home, India

*/e/? So I-I has */a/ > */e/ > */a/ and */a:/ > */o/ > */a/ ? BTW,
isn't <&> in itself front enough to cause palatalization (the fact of
which I haven't disputed)?