Re: [tied] Re: Dava

<-dava> (Moesian variants <-deba>, <-daba>) is actually Dacian, being in fact the most common and most characteristic toponymic element in the language. The geographical distribution of <-dava> vs. Thracian <-bria>, <-diza> and <-para> allows one to draw a rather neat demarcation line between the two linguistic territories. The Dacians themselves were originally called the Daoi (Lat. Da:vi:) < *da:wo-. I am not convinced that the derivation from *dHeh1-, which prevails in the literature, is correct, and I suspect a connection with *dah2-, as in Greek da:mos ~ de:mos. The Hesychian variant is isolated and possibly corrupt (it doesn't occur in recorded place-names). d-/l- do not otherwise alternate in Dacian or Thracian.

Piotr

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Detschew: Die thrakischen Sprachreste: " -dava, -davon, -daba, -dábe:, -deba, -débai, -deva, -dabas, Deua- in [and a lot of names of villages and towns] WT. Thr II, 1 hat richtig erkannt, dass in der Hesychglosse <léba: pólis hupò Thrako:n> das Wort <déba> zu <léba> entstellt ist. Demnach ist der Grundelement mit WT. a.O. und Kretschmer Einl. 222 aus der Wz. <dHe:-w->:<dH&-w-> "setzen, gründen" abzuleiten ... und als "Sitz, Siedlung, Wohnort, offenes Dorf" zu deuten. ... dasselbe Grundelement auch in dem lyk. ON <Hlmm~i-dewe>, bzw <Elmi-dauai> " but suppose the Hesychios quote was not distorted and this is a case of d/l-alternation (if that is possible here)? (One is also reminded of German <-leben> etc)