Re: "Odin of Asgard"

From: tgpedersen
Message: 11777
Date: 2001-12-12

--- In cybalist@..., "indravayu" <sonno3@...> wrote:
>
> > > An interesting observation. "Byrebistas" could perhaps be
> analysed
> > as *wih1ro-wistos (*-wid-to-) 'famous among men' with the
Thracian
> > development of the initials. Ariovistus is a similarly formed
> Celtic
> > name, in which <ario-> is either related to Indo-Iranian *arya-
or
> > represents an accidentally similar Celtic development (*prh3-jo-
> > 'foremost'?).
> > >
> > > Piotr
> >
> > What are the linguistic reasons why you classify the name as
> > Celtic? Are there any other examples of Celtic names with *arya-?
>
> In Gaulish we have the word (apparently a title) ariios (which
seems
> to be cognate with Old Irish aire "lord/noble"), as well as the
> personal name Ariomanus, amongst other examples.
>
> I believe that -uistos would be the equivalent of Old Irish
> fiss, "knowledge" (making Ariouistos "Noble-Knowledge", and a
> hypothetical *Uirouistos "Man-knowledge").
>
> - Chris Gwinn

I was going to ask about a possible connection between Indo-Iranian
Ariman and Arminius (from the Varus battle), but hesitated, since
Ariman is the bad guy, right? and not one to be named after; but now
I'll ask anyway: what is the connection between the three names? And
where in the Celtic world does Ariomanus occur? And where and when
does the title ariios occur in Gaul? (I won't go into a possible
connection with eril-, heruli etc. as a title)

Torsten