Re: [tied] Rydberg on the Ribhus of the Rigveda

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 11334
Date: 2001-11-21

Joao:
>*Bhagos is the blind god of fortune (Bhaga, Baga, Bogu). I dont
>see any relation to the Rbhus.

Okay, that's it, yes... Well, I'm looking at this link:

http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/spirit/chap2.htm

Interestingly, it mentions a 2-way contrast in Iranian myth
between the Baga ("good") and the Dauva ("evil"). Something
evocative of the Aesir and Vanir opposition. Anyways, hasn't it
already just been mentioned that there was a bit of competition
between the craftsmen elf-folk and the gods? Essential, a dual
opposition between two types of mythical beings? Also, *Bhag^os
appears to associated with gift-making or gift-offering... kinda
like the craftsmen, nej? And we know that the name "Dauva" is
based on the IE word *deiwos "god". So, the Baga/Dauva contrast
is between "gods" and "?".

So, how would this association between these craftsmen and
*Bhag^os be misguided? My thinking is that there must certainly
have been some dualistic opposition between one group of mythical
beings and another in IE mythos. Probably between those headed by
*Dye:us (the *Xansu), versus those headed by *PerkWnos (the *Wenu).
However, this concept of the mortal craftsmen trinity might have
later been added to the original world-view, with elements of the
stories of the Herculean *Manus fighting to become immortal again,
combined with the cyclical, season-related war of the *Xansu and
*Wenu deities portrayed in the Norse Ragnarok.

Now do you see?

- love gLeN








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