Re: Vanir

From: malmqvist52@...
Message: 11314
Date: 2001-11-20

> Another thing again: If the Vanir actually lived in Vani, they
would
> have been Colchians (no?). Colchians had immigrated from Egypt,
this
> proved by the fact that they practised circumcision (I think I read
> this in Herodotus?).
It appears that he puts it like this:

--
For it is plain to see that the Colchians are Egyptians; and
> what I say, I myself noted before I heard it from others. When it
> occurred to me, I inquired of both peoples; and the Colchians
remembered the Egyptians better than the Egyptians remembered the
Colchians; ...the Egyptians said that they considered the Colchians
part of Sesostris' army. I myself guessed it, partly because they
are dark-skinned and woolly-haired; though that indeed counts for
nothing, since other peoples are, too; but my better proof was that
the Colchians and Egyptians and Ethiopians are the only nations that
> have from the first practised circumcision
-----
I read somewhere that H. is mixing up the Sesostris part with
something, but the c. and the dark skin and the wolly-hair seems to
be his own observation
So they could have come from Ethiopia also I guess.

Njord married his sister, because that was
> permitted among the Vanir, but not among the Aesir. But Herodotus
> assures us that the only people that permitted that, were Egyptians?

If this is also correct it at least seems Herodotus was right about
the Egyptians. I copied this John Croft- made family tree of the
Rameside family tree for Dynasty 19:
---
Rameses II Isnofret
| |
-----------------
|
-----------------------------
| | |
Khaemwaset Bint-Anath |
|
|
Isnofret Merenptah Takhat
| | | |
--------------- ------------
| |
| --------------------
| | |
Tiaa Seti II Twosret Amenmese Bakwerel
| | | | | |
------------- ------------ ----------
| |
| Seti Merenptah
|
Siptah


Here Seti II and Twosret are half siblings.

Best wishes
Anders

> Torsten