Re: [tied] Vanir

--- Sergejus Tarasovas <S.Tarasovas@...>
wrote:

*****GK: Since we were discussing a Latin text in

> Jordanes which went back to some Gothic source, the
> obvious assumption would be that this source used
> Gothic words. When you suggested a Baltic
> explanation
> for "INAUXIS" I was curious as to whether other
> Baltic
> terms (assuming this one was) had been borrowed into
> Gothic.******
>
> [Sergejus Tarasovas]
> But a toponym repeated after some communicant is not
> yet a borrowing. I
> hope you don't consider Mordens a Mordovianism in
> Gothic?

*****GK: Sorry Sergejus, but as originally propounded
by you this hypothesis did not sound "toponymical" but
"adjectival". Here is the passage as a reminder to
you:

>(ST) --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski"

<gpiotr@...> wrote:

> > I've been contemplating the reading <*in Aunxis>

myself, but

> > have no idea what <*Aunxis> might be the abl.pl.

of

Just a sheer speculation. What if *Aunxis is of Baltic
origin, cf.
Lith. a'uksas 'gold', auksi`nis 'golden'? Then one of
possible
interpretations of <golthescytha thiudos inaunxis>
would be 'Golden
Scythians (or Gold-shielded), a people in gold(en
region?)',
originally with some gold-mining (or amber-gathering?)
connotations.

***GK: That being so my question about Baltic
borrowings in Gothic seemed perfectly in order.I.e. if
Goths borrowed the adjective "auksinis" what else did
they borrow. Anyway, "golden" or not, it's time to
stop chasing rainbows here don't you think?****

>
>
> > (ST)But Slavic *ple,sati is itself problematic as
> to
> its
> > etymology, and
> > Slavic > Gothic plinsjan can't be considered
> proven.
>
> *****GK: I can
> only go by what seems to be the established current
> consensus.*****
> [Sergejus Tarasovas]
> What makes you think so?

*****GK: That what? That non-linguists would be well
advised to be guided by linguists in technical
linguistic issues, or that "plinsjan" is accepted as a
Slavic borrowing by Gothic? If the latter, I can say
that yours is the first critical opinion I've
encountered. Perhaps you might develop it for our
edification.****

>
> (ST)It would be interesting to know your opinion on

the

> Jordanes' passage I
> cited in
>

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/8073)>

>
> ? Is it possible in
> your opinion that some part of the Goths hasn't
> crossed Pripyat?

******GK: I'll have a look*****

>
> Sergei
>
>

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