Re: [tied] Vanir

From: george knysh
Message: 11179
Date: 2001-11-16

--- Sergejus Tarasovas <S.Tarasovas@...>
wrote:

> By the way, to what time do you refer that
> c^udI-borrowing? Again,
> Gothic Tiuda, a possible source for *tjudI > c^udI,
> meant just 'a
> people', if I'm not mistaken.

*****GK: Yes, that's what I thought. I would guess
that the earliest time frame for a borrowing would be
ca. the 5th century. I also had a complex fall back
position for an early 12th century borrowing. Frankly
any time in between would be manageable, and the
potential sources multiple (incl. the Gothic remnants
in the Crimea).*****

(ST)What in Iordanes' text
> makes you think
> he or his source refers to the Baltic Finns
> specifically?

*****GK: Actually I don't think they do. I'm not sure
that "Chud'" becomes primarily associated with
Estonians until much later, while continuing to retain
its broader meaning. BTW What do you make of the
"golthe" in "golthescytha"? Does that sound garbled to
you? Would it have any meaning in Gothic? "cold"?
or...? The Gothic on-line dictionary seems
unavailable.*****

>


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