Re: [tied] Slavic hawk-word

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 10912
Date: 2001-11-02

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:37:48 -0200, "João S. Lopes Filho"
<jodan99@...> wrote:

>And Latin also have astur "hawk" (cf. Azores, from Portuguese Ac,ores
>"hawks").

Latin -st- would not have given Port. -ç-. Indeed, Coromines gives
the etymology of Cast. AZOR 'ave de rapiña' as: "(azttore 941). Del
lat. vg. ACCEPTOR, -O:RIS, íd. (ACCIPITER en latín clásico)".

So what is (Late) Latin <astur>, <asturis> "hawk"? A satemism
imported from somewhere east of Italy, or a vulgarism (ACCEPTO:RE >
aççttÚre == ASTUREM) in Classical Latin?

The only reference for ASTUR in the online Latin dict. of Lewis &
Short is "Firm. Math. 5, 7 fin.", which I think I can trace to:

"Firmi:cus Maternus, Iulius. A Sicilian, the author of an astrological
work in eight books (Matheseos Libri), finished A.D. 354. It is a
complete system and defence of astrology, conceived in the
Neo-Platonic spirit, and hostile to Christianity. It contains the
earliest known mention of alchemy (iii. 15). The work is monotonous in
diction, and hazy in its reasoning..."