Re: [tied] Re: Uralic and PIE/Danube

This would require a large number of words to compare; we have only a small number of them so far -- e.g. PU weti 'water', nimi 'name'. You can hardly formulate a rule without good examples to substantiate it. There are also fairly good matches between PU and PIE grammatical morphemes. Koivulehto's examples, if real, point to borrowing rather than genetic relationship, since the Uralic reflexes preserve uniquely PIE derivational patterns:

(Finno?)-Permic *pe(w)s^e(n) 'sieve; sift' PIE *peuh2-e-no-m < *peuh2- 'purify'

Finno-Saami *po(w)s^-ta 'sift out' PIE *pouh2-eje-

Finno-Saami *pus^tas 'pure' PIE *puh2-to-s

Piotr

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Subject: [tied] Re: Uralic and PIE/Danube

> From: Glen Gordon > Perhaps this would be better worded as: > > "There are numerous loans from a satemized IE dialect into > FinnoUgric as well as further words *assumed* to be borrowed > even earlier between IndoEuropean and Uralic." > > There. Isn't that better? --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote: > It is. It hasn't been resolved if borrowing or common inheritance is involved in the case of the deepest stratum. > > Piotr >

I was wondering if it is possible to set up rules for the borrowing, alternatively inheritance of [PIE] words into this early stratum?