Re: [tied] Re: Apam Napat = Hephaistos or Dionysos?

Apam Napat is a very enigmatic character. He is IE-widespread (Apam Napat,
Neptunus, Nechtan). I tried many different roles for them, but none of them
were definitive. Now I'm working on the hypothesis that *Ap-Nepo:t was the
brother of *Dyeus (a duo Sky and Underground Waters), born from the rivers
that flowed from udder of Primeval Cow (like Buri from ice licked by
Audhumbla). Dyeus was a procreator (father), while Nepo:t became a sort of
"uncle" (Bhishma). I know my ideas are very arbitrary, but I'm trying to
build a scheme, and gradually will improve it. *Nepo:t hadnt children. He's
son of the "waters", that is, the primeval rivers produced by the milk of
Primeval Cow, the junction of Seven (Nine?) Rivers (Heimdallr and his
mothers, Aegir's daughters; Dionysos and Nereides; Skanda and Pleiades,
Bhisma and Ganga; Akhiles and Thetis, Lugh and Eithne). It's a puzzle of
many confuse and scattered myths, but it's just a beginning...

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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:31 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Apam Napat = Hephaistos or Dionysos?


> The Hellenic reflex of the Apam Napat/Child of the Waters myth is the
> bit where Theseus dives into the sea, chasing a ring Minos has tossed
> into it. Theseus is escorted to the undersea court of Amphitrite,
> blablabla ... then continues on with his nationalistic heroic
> adventures. Robert Graves covers this episode in _The Greek Myths_,
> but with no inkling this is (a fragment of) the Apam Napat myth.
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> The Theseus cycle seems to have been stitched together from a number
> of sources (some of them barely understood, if that) in order to do
> service to early Athenian nationalism.
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> My views are influenced by Graves (many of his hard-reasoned
> conclusions are now simply obsolete), but I agree with him that an
> attempt was made to make Theseus a competitor of Herakles; Theseus
> lost out, a mere hero: Herakles was bodily assumed out of Hades into
> Olympus and divinized (as was his mother). Herakles and Semele:Jesus
> and Mary? You betcha.
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