Re: [tied] Methodology

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 10564
Date: 2001-10-24

Miguel proceeds to contradict every word he utters:
>>About words ending in vocalic /-r./ in Sanskrit: there are none in
>>the R.gveda, but -/r./ occurs as a final vowel in the Bra:hman.as
>>(in particular for neuters in -tr.).

Uh-huh. It's pretty clear that the /-t/'s and /-k/'s are a
later addition since we don't see them in the oblique and they
are not convincingly found outside of the Sanskritic languages.

>>1. *Heg^hr. > �har "day"
>> *h1ouHdhr. > �:dhar "udder"

I'm glad you admit this... More down below...

>>2. *yekwr.t > y�kr.t "liver"

Since *-t occurs NOWHERE except in Sanskrit (not even Hittite
or Tocharian!), we must conclude that this is a Sanskrit thing.
Gee, I wonder what the genitive of /yakrt/ is... Why,
lookey-lookey, it's /yaknas/, without any -t- whatsoever.

Why don't you read T.Burrow's "The Sanskrit Language", specifically
pages 126 and 127 that deal with the IE heteroclitic *r/n, and get
back to me.

>> *k^ekwr.t > s'�kr.t "excrement"

So what. Again, what's the genitive? I doubt it's *s'akrtas
or even *s'akntas.

>>3. G. *ph2tr.s > pit�r "father's"
>> 3pl.pret. *-r. + s > -�r

The IE genitive is *pxter�s.

>>4. *h1esh2r.gW > �sr.k "blood"

No, it's *?esxr, without any *gW. In fact, aside from ignoring
all of IE linguistics, you even twist an already twisted theory
about "sanguis". Burrow mentions it in his old book but he explicitly
seperates it as /san-g-uis/. He appears to derive /-j-/ from *g^.
How does *gW become -j-? Whatever. It doesn't matter because
a) you're insane and b) you cling desperately to senseless theories.
What the hell is **-gW supposed to be????? You refuse to elaborate.
Obviously, however, it doesn't mean a thing because the theory is
cracked.

>Let me further add [...]

No, please don't. The -t- in Greek is simply to strengthen the
*-n- in the oblique. We find /oudhar/ versus /oudhatos/ *with* a -t-,
despite your *t-less *h1ouHdhr. Why? Because you're irrational.
You aren't interested in making sense. You're more interested in
making theories for the sake of nutty theories. By the way,
Greek /lumar/ with *-mr might be worth checking into. So much for
your strange version of the heteroclitic sound rule.

Be gone.

- love gLeN


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