Re: [tied] Tyr and *Dyeus [was Re: Odin the Immigrant?]

From: João S. Lopes Filho
Message: 10545
Date: 2001-10-22

Dius Fidius 'God of Faith", *Di(:)wios Bheidhiyos, equivalent of Týr, Nuada
and Mitra.
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Gwinn <sonno3@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:24 PM
Subject: [tied] Tyr and *Dyeus [was Re: Odin the Immigrant?]


>
> > I agree with the current theory of *Dyuas for the most part. I
> simply
> > disagree that the Germanic Tyr was the original *Dyuas (*Tiwaz)
> displaced by
> > a younger god local named Odin. The evidence for that is weak, and
> the logic
> > unsound.
> >
>
> I still have yet to see anybody address here the linguistic problems
> that exist in seeing Tyr as the equivalent of *Dyeus (as many often
> claim). As I have mentioned, Tyr should go back to a Germanic form
> *Tiwaz, allegedly from PIE *deiwos "god" (literally "shining one"),
> which is not the same as *Dyeus "sky" (even though they are from the
> same root *dei- "shine").
> Is it possible that Tyr is actually from *Dyeus after all, and not
> from *deiwos? How do we analyze the Roman Dius, a divinity that
> allegedly has affinities with Tyr (connection with law/contracts, a
> bound hand compared to Tyr's missing hand).
>
> - Chris Gwinn
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>