> The relation of Jupiter-Mars-Quirinus to Odin-Thor-Freyr wasintensely
> studied by Georges Dumezil.while the
> The Jurist Sovereign lost his hands (Tyr, Nuada, Mucius Scaevola),
> Terrible Sovereign lost one of his eyes (Odinn , Lugh, HoratiusCocles).
> Mucius and Cocles were characters in the war between Rome andEtruria.
> Mucius burn his hand himself to swear (falsely) that Romans willnot attack
> (cf. Tyr and Fenrir). Cocles, an one-eyed warrior, stopped theEtruscan army
> on a bridge.patheon
> I think this could be an explanation of evolution of Germanic
> Dyeus P@... > *Tiuz (Sky Father) - all-father (Latin Jupiter,
> Indian Dyauh-Kas^yapa, Irish Dagde Ollathair)Fidius -
> ? > *Saxsanautaz (Jurist Sovereign) - lawgiver god (Latin Dius
> Jupiter's epithet-, Indian Mitra, Irish Nuada)Jupiter
> Wa:tNnos > *Wo:th@... (Terrible Sovereign) - magic god (Latin
> Stator, Indian Varuna)Jupiter
> Tn@... > *Thunraz (Storm-God) - king of gods, storm god (Latin
> Tonans, Indian Indra)Indian
> We:yus > ? (Wind-God) - strong, huge, violent god (Greek Poseidon,
> Va:yu)Fusion of
> Tiuz - father of Saxsanautaz, Wo:th@..., Thunraz and Wind-god
> Tiuz was merged to Saxsanautaz. (Perhaps Tyr < *Ti:waz < *Deiwos).
> Sky-God and Jurist god is also possible in Lithuanian Deivas. IfTyr,Tiu <
> *Ti:waz instead of Tiuz, we can simply assume that Wothnaz aborsbed*Tiuz,
> and that *Saxsanautaz became *Ti:waz.Thun@...
> Wo:th@... absorbed the all-father role of Tiuz and royal role of
> (allfather + magic + king)features and
> Thunraz was identified to Wind-God, but kept the atmospheric
> the name of IE *Tn@... (strength + storm)Very interesting! I think Odin and Dagda must be related. Besides
> Wo:thnaz - father of Tiuz-Saxsanautaz and Thunraz
> > --- In cybalist@..., "William P. Reaves" <beowulf@...> wrote:based
> > > The case for Tyr as the Dyuas Pater of the Germanic tribes is
> > onwas
> > > nothing more than etymology of the name. And the theory that the
> > Germans had
> > > an earlier god named *Tiu which was displaced by Odin is
> > unfortunately still
> > > current in many scholarly books.
> > >
> > > I tend to believe that if the Germanics had a god named *Tiu it
> > merelywas
> > > Odin himself under an earlier name, rather than the god Tyr who
> > > displaced by the migrant Odin.Tuesday is
> > Tyr is interesting, I want to learn more about him. I know
> > named after Tyr. In Italian, Tuesday is Martedi.Fenris
> > I also know one story about him: The gods wanted to bind the
> > wolf, and finally made a chain strong enogh to hold him. Theyinstead
> > couldn't think of a way to catch him, though, so they decided
> > to trick him. They told the wolf they only wanted to test theproof
> > strength of the chain, and they would let him go after that. As
> > of their sincerity, Tyr put his right hand in the wolf's mouth.The
> > gods broke their word, and Tyr lost a hand.Odin
> > This seems similar to Odin sacrificing his eye for knowledge.
> > gives up one eye to know or see more, Tyr gives up his hand tomake
> > his word binding. I've read about a pricniple triad of Teutonicidea.
> > deities: Odin, Thor, and Tyr. Maybe this corresponds with the old
> > Roman triad Quirinus, Jupiter, Mars? I'm still working on that
> > Cort Williams
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