From: João S. Lopes Filho
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Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Odin the Immigrant?
> --- In cybalist@..., "William P. Reaves" <beowulf@...> wrote:
> > The case for Tyr as the Dyuas Pater of the Germanic tribes is based
> > nothing more than etymology of the name. And the theory that the
> Germans had
> > an earlier god named *Tiu which was displaced by Odin is
> unfortunately still
> > current in many scholarly books.
> > I tend to believe that if the Germanics had a god named *Tiu it was
> > Odin himself under an earlier name, rather than the god Tyr who was
> > displaced by the migrant Odin.
> Tyr is interesting, I want to learn more about him. I know Tuesday is
> named after Tyr. In Italian, Tuesday is Martedi.
> I also know one story about him: The gods wanted to bind the Fenris
> wolf, and finally made a chain strong enogh to hold him. They
> couldn't think of a way to catch him, though, so they decided instead
> to trick him. They told the wolf they only wanted to test the
> strength of the chain, and they would let him go after that. As proof
> of their sincerity, Tyr put his right hand in the wolf's mouth. The
> gods broke their word, and Tyr lost a hand.
> This seems similar to Odin sacrificing his eye for knowledge. Odin
> gives up one eye to know or see more, Tyr gives up his hand to make
> his word binding. I've read about a pricniple triad of Teutonic
> deities: Odin, Thor, and Tyr. Maybe this corresponds with the old
> Roman triad Quirinus, Jupiter, Mars? I'm still working on that idea.
> Cort Williams
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