Re: [tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 10318
Date: 2001-10-17

cas111:
>Look in "Language of the Goddess," page 273 (soft cover). It has a
>goddess with an insect-like head flanked by two winged griffins, from
>a Minoan jug. Above her are a double set of horns. Above that is the
>axe.

I'll have to get to the library tomorrow and hunt Gimbutas down. I
think I know which picture you're talking about.

>Gimbutas says that "the double axe of the Bronze Age was
>originally an hourglass-shaped goddess of death and regeneration...
>the butterfly rises fromt hebody or skull of the sacrificed bull." I
>don't see it. It's an axe. Okay, other than Athena popping out of
>Zeus' skull, split by an axe, what do we have to link with this
>imagery? Are butterflies or axes associated with Athena? No.

No. Butterflies are associated with Pandora and her box... erh,
I mean the box that she had in her hands... erh, I mean... oh,
nevermind. All this talk about Gimbutas' views is bound to get
raunchy anyhow <:) Anyways, how do you explain Pandora?

>Gimbutas has the axe as an "energy symbol, because of its roughly
>triangular form symbolically linked with the female triangle
>(vulva)." Get your mind out of the gutter, Marija. For all the
>wonderful research she did in this area, her interpretations and
>conclusions, while mostly quite impressive, became somewhat warped
>by her feminist political agenda.

Hehehe... We have the exact same view. I've rejected some views
of hers too such as the bull's horns and its similarity to the shape
of felopian tubes. In retrospect, unless the ancients were into
female dissections, they wouldn't know about their innards, nor
somehow equate this with childbirth and femininity. Whatever.

>The constellation Taurus is immediately adjacent to Orion. This is what the
>ancients were looking at.

I'm falling behind. I still have to get out the star charts...

>The bee is an acolyte of the goddess, as with Hannahanna. I think the
>ancients knew the difference between a bee and a butterfly. ;-)

Alright. A bee then. No butterflies... that is, if you can explain
Pandora for me.

>As far back as Catal Huyuk they had shrines dedicated to their 'great
>goddess' and the bull, who was their sacrificial savior-god.
>Even the feminists agree with this. Probably also axes, though I'd
>have to look that up.

Hmm, I'll think about that.

- love gLeN


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