[tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 10127
Date: 2001-10-11

Yes, Germanic *aus-to- (east) and *aus-r-o:n- (Easter, etc.) are
related to these Baltic and Slavic words. But *dIn-In-ica is derived
from Slavic *dInI- < *di-n-i- 'day' and cannot have anything to do
with Idun, linguistically.

This "Centumisation" question has been discussed here before. I don't
believe such a process is possible. Lexical and typological
affinities between Germanic and Balto-Slavic are due to the areal
diffusion of linguistic traits in northern Europe. The Corded
Ware/Battle Axe phenomenon represents a similar diffusion of a
cultural package, affecting different ethnic and linguistic groups.

Piotr


--- In cybalist@..., cas111jd@... wrote:

> Austrine is a variant form of Ausrine. Also, the IE morning Venus
> goddesses are normally associated not only with dawn, but with the
> east and also spring and fertility. Oestra/Easter was the
> German/English version of this goddess. Do you think her name could
> be part of this equation? Taking it even further, I have for some
> time believed that the Oestra, who is not known in Norse mythology,
> is found there instead as Idun. Do you think it is possible to
relate
> her name to the dziennica and the Russian Dennitsa? If so, this
> wouldn't be the only parallel between the Germanic and Balto-Slavic
> deities.
>
> The reason I find this intriguing is that I read a study where
> researchers determined that Germanic had a Satem substrate that was
> later 'Centumized'. If this was true, I wondered if this Satem base
> was derived from the Battle Axe culture people that moved into
> Scandinavia, mixing with Centum peoples en route and bringing them
> with them.