Re: Troy, Rasna and Turan

From: MrCaws@...
Message: 9698
Date: 2001-09-23

--- In cybalist@..., "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...> wrote:
> Cort:
> > It is interesting that Aphrodite/Venus was strongly allied with
> >Troy and was the mother of Aeneas, isn't it? Could Troy also be
> >named after Turan?
>
> I don't think so. My own view now is that the name "Rasenna",
> the name that the Etruscans called themselves, is in fact derived
> from *Tarwésena ("People of *Tarwése"). *Tarwése would be the
> city of Troy. However, I like to fantasize that the name for Troy
> itself means "of Taru", of the Hattic god of storm.

> As for Turan, I feel that it derives from an earlier form *Xastora
> and is ultimately, strangely enough, of IE origin (*xste:r "star").
>
> Of course, I could be wrong...

But wasn't the specific city of troy known as Wilusa, at least to the
Hittites anyway? I remember that in a discussion a while ago there
was an idea that Troy might be a more general term for a region/
political confederation/peoples of which Wilusa was an important
member.
If that was so, then could "people of Turan" or some such thing be
the origin of that name as well as for Tyrrhenian?

Or, if Troy was a specific city, could Turan ultimately be the
derivation for the city like your(intriguing) Taru suggestion?

And as long as we are talking about Tyrrhenian and the goddess Turan,
wasn't Cyprus one of the mythic points of origin for Aphrodite?

If 1. Aphrodite was equated with Turan,
2. The peoples who wrote Eteo-Cypriot were indeed Tyrrhenian
speakers
3.Turan was an especially important deity to these peoples

Could this be an explanation for the Cyprus version of Aphrodite's
birth as well as support for the Turan=Tyrrhenian thing?


Cort Williams