Hades and Kore (was Re: [tied] Nostradamus and Dumezil)

From: cas111jd@...
Message: 9554
Date: 2001-09-17

The maidenly goddess of summer/fertility/vegetation had a bad habit
of being abducted by the gods of darkness/underworld/winter in all
the IE mythologies. The big difference here is that the mother
goddess is distraught and had to go look for her. In the IE
mythologies it is normally the summer/light/fertility god that
rescues her. IMO Helen of Troy borrowed from this theme.

--- In cybalist@..., jdcroft@... wrote:
> João wrote:
>
> > I think Yamm, the sea serpent-god, is related to some traits of
> Poseidon.
> > The three Ugaritic brothers Baal-Yamm-Mot are similar to
> > Zeus-Poseidon-Hades.
>
> This is an interesting one. Given that this tripartite division is
> not found with Mycenaean Poseidas and Zeus, it is quite possible
that
> you are right, with the date of the transition occuring as a part
of
> the Phoenician period which led to a heavy orientalising tendency
in
> Hellas from the 8th Century. I feel it is interesting in this
> context as regards Hades, who is clearly the youngest (and least
> formed) of the Trio. It would seem that the coming of Hades-Mot
> superceded the worship of a Goddess of the Underworld (Prosepina-
> Kore), leading to her "rape" by the younger God. Again a Middle-
> Eastern parallel seems appropriate here. Ereshkigal was
> similarly "raped" by her future Husband - Nergal, after her earlier
> spouse, Gulaganna, the "Wild Bull of Heaven" (the constellation
> Taurus) had been disposed of by Enkidu.
>
> This makes the Eleusian myth of Demeter-Kore even closer to the
> Inanna-Erishkigal prototype. Eleusis, however, was definitely pre-
> Mycenaean in origin so the Emeter-Kore link is extremely early
> (possibly Neolithic). In this case perhaps it comes from a common
> core in Anatolia of both the Eleusis and Inanna story.
>
> Regards
>
> John