Re: Hades and Kore (was Re: [tied] Nostradamus and Dumezil)

Yes, I agree with most of your ideas. I think an Ugaritic influence is
easily seen in many traits of Theogony. However, these traits changed after
another influences. To track the origin of Greek myths is still very
complex.
Yamm = Poseidon
Baal = Zeus = Anatolian Teshup
Moth = Hades (with demonic traits transferred to Typhon or even
wide-mouthed Kronos) = traits in Hittite Illujankash and Ullikummish
Shapash (sun and fire goddess, Baal's messenger) = Iris (with traits shared
by Hestia and Hekate)
Atrt (Yamm's consort) = Amphitrite
Anat (Baal's sister and consort) = Athena (Zeus's daughter and war partner)
= Hitite Shaushka
Kushor (smith) = Hephaistos or Cyclopes
El = Kronos = Kumarpish

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Subject: Hades and Kore (was Re: [tied] Nostradamus and Dumezil)


> João wrote:
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> > I think Yamm, the sea serpent-god, is related to some traits of
> Poseidon.
> > The three Ugaritic brothers Baal-Yamm-Mot are similar to
> > Zeus-Poseidon-Hades.
>
> This is an interesting one. Given that this tripartite division is
> not found with Mycenaean Poseidas and Zeus, it is quite possible that
> you are right, with the date of the transition occuring as a part of
> the Phoenician period which led to a heavy orientalising tendency in
> Hellas from the 8th Century. I feel it is interesting in this
> context as regards Hades, who is clearly the youngest (and least
> formed) of the Trio. It would seem that the coming of Hades-Mot
> superceded the worship of a Goddess of the Underworld (Prosepina-
> Kore), leading to her "rape" by the younger God. Again a Middle-
> Eastern parallel seems appropriate here. Ereshkigal was
> similarly "raped" by her future Husband - Nergal, after her earlier
> spouse, Gulaganna, the "Wild Bull of Heaven" (the constellation
> Taurus) had been disposed of by Enkidu.
>
> This makes the Eleusian myth of Demeter-Kore even closer to the
> Inanna-Erishkigal prototype. Eleusis, however, was definitely pre-
> Mycenaean in origin so the Emeter-Kore link is extremely early
> (possibly Neolithic). In this case perhaps it comes from a common
> core in Anatolia of both the Eleusis and Inanna story.
>
> Regards
>
> John
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