From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 9437
Date: 2001-09-13
----- Original Message -----
From: "Morten Thoresen" <morten.thoresen@...>
To: <cybalist-owner@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: approval memberhip
> I am a little confused about beeing denied accesss to the
cybalist. It
> seems impossible for me to sign up with my member
mailadress
> mothor@..., as well as with this mailadress
(morten.thoresen@....
>
> I was trying to send the following message:
>
> (snip)
>
> Let's imagine that there was one group of peoples called
the Pelasgians and
> one people that at a certain time was called the
Tyrrhenians. Let's pretend
> they spoke the same language but had somewhat different
cultures.
>
> Now, let's imagine further that the Pelasgians, different
breeds and
> numerous tribes of common origin, lived spread among other
peoples on the
> eastern (and even western?) Mediterranean islands.
Including Crete, Lemnos,
> Thera, Cyprus and Rhodes, while the people (later to be)
called Tyrrhenians
> lived in ( the area that later became) Lydia, according to
Herodotus.
> Pelasgians were sea peoples and Tyrrhenians were not.
>
> Lets imagine that the Pelasgians, slowly being outnumbered
and expelled by
> "newcomers"/indo-Europeans, united and went to war to
protect their "way of
> life". This finally resulted in destruction of Ugarit,
leading to the final
> fall of the Hittites.
>
> Here, at Ras Shamra the Pelasgians gave themselves the
name Rasna, in
> Etruscan meaning "the people of Ras" or "the people from
Ras". What Rasna
> meant to the Etruscans was probably something like "the
victorious peoples
> of Ras", stating a new era of their peoples and tribes.
(For the first time
> in hundreds of years?) They had managed to join forces
against one huge
> enemy and won.
>
> Sea peoples as they were, their constant presence at the
major harbours of
> the eastern mediterranean led to contact with lots of
other peoples. Among
> them Tyrrhenians arriving Smyrna to have themselves ships
built to find new
> land, according to Herodotus. (Not 8th century BC, but
many, many
> generations earlier.) Let's imagine these peoples joined
forces some time in
> the 13th or 12th century, after (or before?) the
Pelasgians had destroyed
> Ugarit.
>
> The Pelasgians/Rasna were sailors and warriors, the
Tyrrhenians had gold, a
> king and a people who were seeking new land. They shared
language and had a
> common goal; to find new territory where they could
prosper.
>
> Italy and Etruria were well known land for the Pelasgians.
Cretan Pelasgians
> had collected tin there for hundreds of years, and was
possibly already
> established with settlements there.
> All this is of course highly speculative. I apologise for
my poor English.
>
> Regards
>
> Morten
>
> (snip)
>
> I look forward to your answer.
>
> With regards
>
> Morten Thoresen
>
>
>