Re: [tied] Vw again

From: Che
Message: 9017
Date: 2001-09-04

An euskerization of the ortographic systems? Now I understand waht you meant. That's alright, but we must accept that that notation would make us miss those details (like all those "s" allophones in spanish, or all the allophonic stops in catalan, or nasalisations, different articulations etc.) that are just what makes necessary to get a new system!
----- Original Message -----
From: fhb
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Vw again

--- Che <almogaver69@...> escribió: > I think
it's quite a good idea, but I can't imagine
> how can you represent those khoisan (I am wrong?)
> african languages with the Roman alphabet alone...
> I don't even find how can you represent the whole
> phonetic range within the IE languages. Too many
> diacritics, too many digraphs, too many allophones
> to be aware of, etc. Besides, you say people reading
> the current system don't know what all those symbols
> mean, but what about all those extras you may need?
> However, I'm with you that we could find a solution,
> but in my opinion, we should be conscious that we
> cannot get to all linguistic systems.


You're right. I'm conscious of the difficulties but
haven't reflected enough on to find how to solve them.
However, the fact is that the problems I have for
talking about Spanish or Catalan are just with a
handful of phonems (well, the problems would increase
if I'd try of talking about Spanish allophones of "s",
for example). Maybe a simplified phonetic notation for
every  language (a simplified RFE for Spanish and
Catalan, for instance)?  Don't know.


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