Re: Rim-?

> But as you might have guessed I wondered: why Ru:ma in Gothic, when
> that's Old Latin and Etruscan (and by extrapolation(?) Lemnian).

When

> did the Goths arrive in the North Pontic area and who did they find
> there?

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> Old Church Slavic <rum-> was most likely borrowed from some
northern Greek dialect in which <rho:maioi> was pronounced [ruméi]
(cf. the Arabic word for Byzantium). Gothic <Ru:ma, Ru:mo:neis> and
similar Germanic forms are difficult to explain. The ultimate source
seems to be
Based on?

Latin (Ro:ma:n- rather than Etruscan Rumach), but I don't know the
route of the borrowing. Maybe a conservative form of the word
travelled early from Northern Italy into Central Europe. By the way,
does anyone (Chris Gwinn?) know the earliest Celtic words for Rome
and the Romans?
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> Piotr
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As I recall, you preferred the foot route via the Brenner also for ON
Tursa- (another tr- word; nothing personal, of course), whereas I
(also then) preferred the boat route from Lemnos? (I also got another
irrelevant unwelcome association: <Pompilius> is really Etruscan
<Puplu>(?))

Torsten