Tyrrhenian and its relation to IE

Well, it turns out that I made the whole thing up about Kerns.
Apparently, I'm thinking of Dolgopolsky and his *ma postclitic.
Unfortunately for me, he intended it to be the "marked
accusative".

In all, it would seem that I'm the alone in the belief that
Nostratic had an ergative rather than accusative *ma. Oh well,
I don't care! The fact that Sumerian, AA and Kartvelian have no
trace of an *m-accusative should demonstrate (along with other
grammatical peculiarities that I could bore the list with) that
the ending was only used as an accusative for a specific
sub-grouping of Nostratic.

Plus, if we are to speak of an "ergative stage" in preIE, then
why can't this ergative stage be Nostratic itself? If not
Nostratic, when?? During the ProtoWorld stage? :P

Yes, fie with Nostraticists, fie, I say!

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>From: "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
>Reply-To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
>To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tied] Tyrrhenian and its relation to IE
>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:57:54
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>Pat is confused again so I'll be concise:
>
>In IndoTyrrhenian,
> the nominative marked the subject/patient,
> the accusative marked the object,
> and the genitive marked the agent.
>
>Example: Burushaski where both subject-object and agent-patient
>relationships are also conveyed.
>
> > A typical confusion. The functional equivalent of the accusative is
>the
> >absolutive.
>
>Since the patient and the object are two different things, the
>absolutive and accusative cases are definitely not functionally
>equivalent. Therefore, Pat must be mad.
>
>When I arrive home, I'll find Kerns' quote on the Nostratic
>postclitic *ma which Pat cannot find it at his impoverished
>library.
>
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