Re: [tied] Tyrrhenian and its relation to IE

From: Patrick C. Ryan
Message: 8648
Date: 2001-08-21

Dear Torsten and Cybalisters:

 

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: [tied] Tyrrhenian and its relation to IE

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The  accusative *-m is more likely to be
derived from an early ergative case and the lack of the ending in
inanimate noun stems relates to the probability that once upon a
time an inanimate noun could never be the agent of an action. But
then, that rule just makes logical sense, doesn't it?
[PCR]
There is nothing at all to lead one to the idea that -*m is derived from an ergative case. Ergative is simply an alternate method of marking the agent in a transitive construction.
 
Rather, if the two arguments of a transitive verb are both animate, -*m would identify the non-agent, i.e. the absolutive. Conversely, ergative -*s would identify the agent. Only one is really necessary.
 
Thus, a nominative -*s and accusative *-m in IE is redundant.
 
 
Pat
 

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