Re: Odin as a Trojan Prince

From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 8502
Date: 2001-08-14

--- In cybalist@..., "Joseph S Crary" <pva@...> wrote:
> Torsten
>
> I've seen this same type of foundation tradition used by several
> Nordic-German tribal confederations. The Franks and Langobards use
it.
> Even the Scots use it. These focus on either Troy or Scythia. The
> Scots actually use Scythia in one tradition and Scythia-Egypt in
> another. They all seem to use the region immediately north of the
> Black Sea as a common point of origin. However, both the Franks and
> Langobards had more detailed traditions concerning their migration
> from Scandinavia to Germany.
>
>
> I don't think these traditions are inventions as we would view it
> today. I think there may have been different traditions or sets of
> traditions floating around. One that applied to the more recent
> history of a given tribe. A second, that applied to the very dim
and
> very ancient tribal history. And, a third tradition that actually
> comes from Hellenistic sources, and had been merged with the second
> tribal tradition. The merging of the second and third traditions
> allowed these tribes a way of relating to the Roman world. Then
there
> is the Judeo-Christian aspect that later required northwestern
> European ruling families to trace their ancestry back to Adam. Its
> important to remember that these are real traditions, although
> historically they may not be entirely reliable.
>
> These traditions may reflect different aspects of a given tribal or
> later national history?
>
> JS Crary

I get the feeling that you are somehow agreeing with me (thank you ;-
) ), but I can't figure out your epistemology. My own says a story is
either true or false, either it happened or it didn't.

Torsten