Re: Inguaeonum [was Celtic Jutland]

From: Christopher Gwinn
Message: 8433
Date: 2001-08-10

> We also have the Lemovii of the lower Oder in central Europe and
the
> Lemovices of S. Gaul, the Brigantii of Vindelicia and the Brigantes
> of Britain and Ireland, the Lugii of Silesia and the Lugii of
> northern Britain and possibly Lugdunum and Lugos,

Why do you list placename (Lugudunum) and a divine name (the
nominative sg. is Lugus, not Lugos, btw) as proof of your
colonization theory?

> the Parisi of Gaul
> and Britain, etc, that could fit in this model. So, awkward
> linguistics aside, the Nemetes, Namnetes, and Nemetati (not
Nemnetes,
> as I stated previously) tribes seem related (IMO).

Based on what? The superficial similarity of the first three letters
of the names Namnetes and Nemetes? Hardly scientific!


> > True - but then again, some Celtic gods have taken their names
from
> > tribes or from places.
> >
>
> Yes, I can recall the Sequanni named after the goddess of the R.
> Seine (every river had an eponymous goddess, didn't they?). What
> others can you recall?

There are a lot - I would suggest you consult P.H. Billy's "Thesaurus
Linguae Gallicae" for a decent list.


> > The Tri- in Triboci may be Celtic tri- "three" or a variant
> spelling
> > of tre- "through/across" - though it must be admitted that tri-
is
> > the compound form of "three" in many archaic Indo European
> languages,
> > so is not particularyl Celtic.
> >
> Interesting. Again, my wont is partly based on the triads and
> trinities stronger, it seems to me, in Celtic religion than most
> others. Could bocii be a corruption of boii?

??? Well, to answer your last question, it is unlikely that -boci is
a corruption of -boii (though I suppose it is not impossible). I
don't know why you see triplicity as a particularly Celtic trait -
Dumezil more than amply proved its widespread favor by all of the
Indo European branches.


> As for tre-, I guess I forgot reading that. As I now recall, it is
> thought to be named after their capital on the Moselle, which was a
> river crossing. This mention did spark a question: could a cognate
of
> this word be found in Thracian as Troy and 'the Troad'? Given that
> this area was the main crossing point in all of antiquity from
Europe
> to Asia Minor ... just a thought.

Highly unlikely.

- Chris Gwinn