Re: [tied] Re: Satem shift

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 8057
Date: 2001-07-23

(A) I have already given my reasons for regarding satemisation as an irreversible process. Quite apart from which, I don't see any compelling reasons for the grouping of Germanic with Balto-Slavic (or the Satemic cluster in general) in genetic terms. The affinities usually cited are either North European areal traits or trivial parallels that are too common cross-linguistically to indicate genetic relationship. The most interesting resemblances (such as *-m- vs. *-bH- endings and adjectival declensions) have been discussed on this list before.
 
 
(B) Any variable, including differently regularised paradigms, can become a shibboleth provided that people are aware of it. In Irish English, the standard name of the letter H is "haitch", but in Protestant communities "aitch" is preferred to that Catholic deformation.
 
Piotr
 
 
 
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Subject: [tied] Re: Satem shift

(A) It's nice to hear that I've produced something useful. Could that also serve as an explanation of the proposed re-centumisation of Germanic?
 

(B) But I was also thinking also of the idea that shibboleths arise first within inflexion patterns which are then regularized differently within different sociological groups, and then become shibboleths...