Re: [tied] Neptune, Poseidon, Danu, etc.

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 7790
Date: 2001-07-04

As I said I don't quite understand it myself. However, this Gen.sg. *dem-s is quite well substantiated (Avestan da:N 'of the house'). Nasal (and heteroclitic) stems in general show similar alternations at least in some branches (*-o:n/-r/-l, *-en-s), cf. also Avestan xWa:N 'of the sun' < *s(h2)wen-s. PIE *do:m is not necessarily inanimate (gramatically, that is) -- an asigmatic nominative is to be expected in this case.
 
The -o-/-e- alternation originally reflected pre-PIE stress contrasts, but by PIE times it had acquired morphological functions of its own, quite independent of stress patterns. The form *dem-s is "late" in the sense that it must have been formed after the period of stress-based vowel reductions but "early" in the sense that it reflects an old consonantal stem (irregular already in PIE) and is more archaic than thematised *dom-o-. As for thematisation itself, it hardly needs accounting for, being the simplest and most productive method of regularising morphologically "difficult" nouns.
 
Piotr
 
 
 
 
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From: Sergejus Tarasovas
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Subject: Re: [tied] Neptune, Poseidon, Danu, etc.

--- In cybalist@......, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@......> wrote:

> One IE reconstruction of the "house" word is a consonantal stem declined like this: Nom.sg. *do:m, Gen.sg. dem-s (the o-stem form *domos is supposed to be younger).

Is there a plausible (or at least consistent) explanation of the ablaut in that specific case? Stress seems not to help, laryngeals as well. Again, does the consonantal stem indicate a former inactive class? If so, why thematized and converted to active -> masculine?