Re: [tied] Fjall, pilis, polis...

Do you suggest that the meaning 'mountain' has been retained in
Germanic 'fjall', or is this a north Germanic innovation due to the
geography of the Scandinavian peninsula?


Håvard

--- In cybalist@..., "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...> wrote:
>
> Piotr:
> >The EIEC reconstructs a PIE *pel(i)s 'stone' (there are also
apparent
> >Indo-Iranian cognates), but notes various morphological
>irregularities and
> >concludes that the item looks like a non-IE >substrate word.
>
> Should I dare rear up the ugly head of Tyrrhenian again, lest
> Piotr smite me with his zealous (although much appreciated)
> skepticism :) Well, here we go then...
>
> There is the fact that geographical names with *pala- show up in
Europe.
> They are possibly related to Etruscan forms in fala- such
> as /falas'/, /falau/ and /falica/. I notice that Tyrrhenian
> aspirate *p becomes EtruscoLemnian bilabial fricative *f.
>
> A reconstruction of Tyrrhenian *pele "mountain" is tempting. I
> would also suggest that there are mythological connections as well
> (ie: the mountain that holds up the sky at the center of the world,
> the place where gods live, the association with Vulcan and his
> very name, etc) which might be the underlying reason for the
transference of
> such a loan in the first place.
>
> - gLeN
>
>
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