Re: Sarasvati River

--- In cybalist@..., "Alexander Stolbov" <astolbov@...> wrote:

> Torsten,
> Are iron tools or weapon mentioned in the Ynglingesaga? And what

about

> riders?
>
> Alexander
>

No, no direct mention of iron or riders, I'm afraid. I suppose you
wanted to use that for dating the Ynglingasaga?

http://www.forn-sed.org/n-text/heimskringla/ynglingasaga.htm

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tgpedersen@...>
> To: <cybalist@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:43 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: Sarasvati River
>
>
>
> I can't come up with anything it might have been the border of.
>
> Well, one of my ancestors used to be s boatsman on that river (the
> Gudenaa), dragging barges along the towpath (seriously!), so it's

not

> that dissimilar to the Volga :). It's our only navigable "river" (if
> anything here deserves that name). The town of Randers is at the
> place where it becomes a wide 30 km estuary.
>
> The Ynglingesaga says of Odin:
> "First he went west to Gardariki [Russia] and then south in Saxland.
> He had many sons. He won for himself a large realm in Saxland and
> there he placed his sons to rule the land; then he went North to the
> Ocean and took abode on an island, where it is now called Odinsey,

on

> Fyn." Obviously the town of Odense.
> Now if this actually happened (but I'm pretty sure you're
> unconvinced), this guy Odin might have spoken (or known) an Iranian
> language, judging from his first known position.
>

Another strange idea. Odin stopped in Germany first and built a
kingdom there. Let's assume he stopped in Thuringia (Saxo: Tanna, who
was defeated in Byzantium, travels to the Wilcze and defeats them.
The Wend tribe of Wilcze lived close to the Saale River. That's very
close to Thuringia). If so, then the names occurring before the
-leben place names in Thuringia and the -lev/löv names in Denmark and
Sweden are the names of Odin's henchmen (since that suffix is
generally derived from PIE *likW-, "leave behind").

Torsten