Croatians

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 7389
Date: 2001-05-24

This looks rather suspect. To be sure, the modern Slavic name for the mountains, Karpaty, cannot be very old; it was borrowed after liquid metathesis and the change of short *a into *o, most likely about the 8th century. But early Germanic *xarvað- would have become Common Slavic **xorvod- > **xravod- in dialects related to Croatian. Besides, where is the "-ian" part? One would definitely expect an ethnonymic suffix like *-ên(-in)- or *-ak- in a name derived from a mountain range.
 
The starting point for any sensible etymology must be *xrvat(-in)-, the form which underlies the attested versions of the name.
 
Piotr
 
 
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To me "Hrvat" looks rather like "Carpath-ians", and in particular like
a possible Germanicized form *{harfath-}, c.f. the recorded Old Norse
form "Harvadh-fjollum" (dative plural).