Odp: [tied] Re: Latin -mini 2pl passive; Latin perfect

I know. I gave these very examples myself when discussing the formation; and so does anyone who writes about it, since little else seems to have survived ... unless of course Rasmussen is right about -nd-o- gerundives being derived from *-m(h1)n-o-. And he might well be, as the equally mysterious Latin gerunds, also in -nd-, could be derived in the same fashion from deverbal nouns in *-m(e)n- -- in other words, two birds killed with one stone!

Piotr

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Subject: [tied] Re: Latin -mini 2pl passive; Latin perfect

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote: > ... For Latin, you'd have to assume a completely isolated survival > of a purely hypothetical periphrastic stage, since *<porta:mini: > estis> is not attested; nor is *<porta:minus>. Latin does show a few fossil survivals of a mediopassive participle in -menos, e.g. alumnus < alomenos, and femina = "woman" < dhe:-mena: = "she who is suckled from".