[tied] Re: LIST POLICY CHANGES

From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 7236
Date: 2001-04-28

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen@...
> To: cybalist@...
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:34 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: LIST POLICY CHANGES
>
>
> --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> and
> if somebody wants to discuss, say, heavy metal poisoning across
> history, it's very simple to start a new list (say,
> historical_toxicology).
> >
> > Piotr
> >
>
> One little last remark from me on that peripheral subject, and I'll
> hold my tongue.
>
> After I posted the various heavy metal examples, I suddenly
couldn't
> get in contact with yahoo groups. Time out. That lasted the whole
day
> on that computer. Anything else it could access OK. The computer
next
> to it had no problems accessing yahoo groups.
> Next day the first computer could access yahoo groups, but not
> cybalist. I could get around that by signing in, then selecting
> cybalist among "my groups".
> I thought it was so strange that I posted a remark about it. It
> disappeared!
> Now I'm curious what happens to this (attempted) posting.
> It's nice to know somebody or something out there makes sure
nothing
> bad happens on the net.
>
>
> Torsten

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> Dear Torsten,
>
> You sound as if you wanted to insinuate something unpleasant, like
a cunning plot by the list moderators to silence you; judging from
the symptoms described, your computer might have been hacked :). It
all happened during the brief period when moderation was on for
reasons known to all. At that time Cyril Babaev invited me to co-
moderate the list. Your remark was posted to me by the list server
for approval and I did approve it -- hesitantly, since the complaint
was ridiculous, to be frank. No-one on the list could have been
responsible for the trouble you'd been having with your PC. However,
the message did not eventually appear on the list and I never saw it
again; I assumed at the time that Cyril had seen it first and
rejected it (in which case you ought to have been notified by the
server; pending messages do not disappear like that and AFAIK
moderators cannot simply snuff them out of existence).
>
> Whatever happened, there was no wicked conspiracy against you -- at
worst, there was a moderator's decision to curtail OT mail. That's
what moderatorship is all about. As you can see, you're free to
mention heavy metals and lost messages now, though I do count on your
promise to hold your tongue. If you still have your suspicions
about "somebody or something out there", it's your personal problem.
>
> Piotr
>

I was not trying to insinuate anything. I was recounting an episode
as it happened, in the presence of several people, that's all. It
ought to be perfectly clear to anyone that the moderator of a list
can't deny you access to all of yahoo's lists. Whatever happened, I
never suspected it to have been instigated by Cyril or you (except
possibly for the disappearance of my posting). My personal suspicion
was some automatic response from some software-run protection at
Yahoo or some higher level reacting to the mention of some bad people
with names beginning with H...

What I can't understand is why you are defending yourself against an
accusation I never made?

As for holding my tongue, yes I think I will do that now. Does anyone
know how to remove your membership of a group? The air is getting a
bit stuffy here.

Torsten