Re: [tied] Re: Writing text in PIE? (sheep and horses)

Please, remember that the great man's name is spelt SCHLEICHER, August Schleicher. The reconstructed ancestral language of the IE family, which we call PIE, was often called "Aryan" at the time when he lived and worked (the mid-19th c.), though Schleicher himself preferred the term "Indogermanisch". He was one of the founding-fathers of IE studies and can be held personally responsible for introducing the family-tree model of language evolution.

PIE as reconstructed at that time was very Sanskrit-like (e.g., Schleicher's words for "sheep" and "horse" were *avis and *akvas); the fallacy of that approach was demonstrated about a decade after the publication of the fable.

Piotr

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Subject: [tied] Re: Writing text in PIE? (sheep and horses)

--- In cybalist@......, Julianus <julianus@......> wrote: > [Schleichter's fable] is on the WWW. > Go to http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/indoeuro.html > and look at the bottom of the page. I saw a book about Schleichter's fable. He seemed to have written it in "Aryan" (= the immediate common ancestor of Sanskrit and Iranian); someone later translated it into PIE in the time when people thought that the laryngeals were vowels and spelt them as the schwa letter (= turned lowercase `e') with subscript numbers; later someone else updated the PIE language with the laryngeals as consonants. Eclectorium represents as `@' a sound that Piotr Gasiorowski represents as `h' (e.g. {wlhna:} = "wool" (nom.sg.). I am sorry to repeat, but (and it would be useful if this was in this list's standard information) please DON'T use `@' as a phoneme character on this or any other Yahoo group. That is because when the message is put in Yahoo's archives, any letter string containing an `@' is assumed to be an email address and is replaced by an abbreviation and a link, to stop spammers from collecting email addresses to send spam to. > There's also a link to the Degaspregos version. I followed that link, and it starts thus:- > Bergose owos kweos wulnom ne habit ekwomi weidakwit; ... What language is that? It looks like a descendant of PIE.