Re: Odp: Odp: [tied] Desatemized Germanic

But any deliberate "reversal" engineered by non-linguists is likely to leave a residue of older forms overlooked by the "purifiers". Show me a single example of residual satem developments in Germanic.

Russian does display effects of the second palatalisation e.g. root-initially (cena, celyj, cvet, zvezda), though not in declensional alternations. But the "declensional dispalatalisation" is easily explicable as due to the combined influence of analogy and the non-palatalising northern dialectal substrate. It isn't a wholesale reversal of the historical process -- just a "local" analogical simplification.

Piotr

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--- In cybalist@......, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@......> wrote: > Nope, AFAIK. And the reintroduction of *kW etc. would have been even more difficult. Evolution does not flow back like that. > > Piotr Does that include -k- in Russian <v ruké>? Also Norwegian <mote> 'fashion' (<- French 'mode' and purge of Danish /d/ in the Danish/other Scandinavian d/t shibboleth, comes to mind. Or final -a in coll. Swedish <timma> (for <timme>) 'hour'? Swedish after the liberation from the Danes and Norwegian in the 19th century seem to me perfect examples languages "flowing backwards". > Torsten

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