Re: [tied] Metathetic Power

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 6203
Date: 2001-02-25

4. Pure chance. (Most likely for this particular "similarity", which looks entirely superficial -- just a loose match involving two consonants, .)
 
The words "lass" (<lasce> <lasse>) and "lad" (<ladde>) made their first appearance in the Northern and Midland dialects of Middle English, which may point to Scandinavian origin, though the proposed North Germanic cognates are a little shaky (but still way better than "yeled"). There is no trace of them in Old English, which of course doesn't prove that they can't have existed at that time, but given their "everyday word" nature it's a conspicuous absence. Exotic origin (pre-IE substrate, Semitic seafarers) is hardly likely here, especially as there are no compelling cognacy proposals.
 
Piotr
 
PS. As regards metathesising IC, my apologies to Hon. Eric Seal, whose name I omitted.
 
P.
 
 
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Subject: Re: [tied] Metathetic Power

What could the origin of the "lad" - "yeled" similarity be?
1. It could be from a common Nostratic root.
2. Some people have claimed that ancient Semitic seafarers visited the
British isles.
3. Some people have claimed a Berber or Afro-Asiatic substratum in
northwestern Europe. Such a substratum would explain some features of
Germanic such as changing the vowels for plurals. Pat Ryan wrote an
article on the similarities between Germanic and Semititc.
http://www.delphi.com/indoeuropean