Re: Scythians & Chuvashes

--- In cybalist@..., tgpedersen@... wrote:

> Chuvash <tan> "naled', voda na l'du"
>
> of which what I know of Russian makes me think that the latter
> means "water on ice", whereas the former doesn't occur in my Russian-
> Danish dictionary (but seems to be something on ice too). Chuvash
> seems to have shifted /d/ -> /t/ at some time (judging from some loan
> words, also the d- initial words seem to be disproportionately of
> Russian origin (dama, dacha, dvigatel')).
>

Russ. naled' means 1. ice crust 2. water above ice.
Russ. voda na l'du = naled' 2,
so the Chuvash word seemes to mean 'water above ice'.

I don't have sufficient Turkic background to comment Chuv. <tan> and it's etymology, but I should warn you: what Valentyn writes about Scyths and Turki (especially the statement Scyths were of Turkic, not East Iranian origin) conflicts not with the majority opinion, but with the general opinion altogether.

Sergei