Re: *dan-

From: stefan
Message: 5636
Date: 2001-01-19

From: "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>

> >Well, my advice would be - let's study the chaos theory because,
as in everything else in this universe of ours - chaos and order
must be equally balanced and taken into account if > we are to get
anywherein our search for truth.

> However, in this life, if we might strive to keep ourselves within
the bounds of logic as one should if one wishes to be considered a
scientist (for what is the definition of an insane individual but
one that has strayed from logic), then we must evaluate and order
theories based > on their logical probability, not on pure belief.

Logic belongs to the left hemisphereof the brain ; belief to the
right. The balance is in the mid-brain which scientists should use
but don't. Einstein was one of the few notable exceptions to which
he himself testified.
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is
blind." and also "The most beautiful experience we can have is the
mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the
cradle of true art and true science."
Do you think that he was insane? :-)

The probability that IE or its ancestor
> stages lied in Sundaland within the past 10,000 years, given the
competent data from varying disciplines, is uncompetitive

I agree. It may be a possibility, but it is hardly a probability at
this stage of our knowledge.

> Theories based on the metaphysical are
> unscientific, not based on physical reality.

In a sense, you are quite right. But science should investigate such
theories and give them the benefit of the doubt rather than dismiss
them out of hand. The problems is that most scientists are unable
to sift new-agism from serious theories
and prefer to dismiss the whole lot as irrelevant.

> And so, I suppose it all depends on what you want in the end. If
you wish to live in a logical world, personal belief is
> irrelevant.

You contradict yourself, my friend. You believe in the supremacy of
Logic. It is your personal god. If that personal belief of yours is
irrelevant that than your world must be illogical.

> If you wish to live
> in a chaotic world, personal belief will be important to you. I
wish to live in a logical world.

We both live in a chaotic world, because the universe is chaotic.
What you are doing is following the left brain path.
I am trying to walk the middle way and I reject neither logic nor
metaphysics. The truth is always in the middle.

Stefan

PS. http://www.ralph-abraham.org/talks/
Are you familiar with the work of this very logical professor of
mathematics? There are many like him - fortunately.