Re: [tied] Etruscan phonetics

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 5431
Date: 2001-01-11

Greek names in Etruscan: (source: The Etruscans, Raymond Bloch - Comparative
Mythology, Jaan Puhvel)

Klytaim(n)estra > Cluthumustha
Alexandros > Alechsantre, Elchantre
Apollo(n) > Apullu
Bellerophontes > Melerpanta
Ganymedes > Catamitus

----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Etruscan phonetics


>
> Sergei about Joao's connections between Velchans and *welk-:
> >If the above examples are trustworthy, it may mean that we should re-
> >think conventional phonetic interpretation of Etruscan stops. Why in
> >borrowings /ch/ [kh?] (and not /c/ [k?]) renders [k], /f/ [f? or
> >bilabial fricative?] (and not /p/ [p?]) renders [p] etc. May be
> >Etruscan 'mutae' are not conventional voiceless? Or this reflexes
> >some kind of later 'shift'?
>
> There is no voice in Etruscan stops. It's generally agreed that this is an
> aspirate/inaspirate contrast. As for the labial stop /p/, in connection
with
> trying to relate it to Proto-IndoEuropean phonology, I arrive at a
> conclusion that Etruscan only had ONE labial stop /p/=/ph/. Just thoughts,
> anyway.
>
> - gLeN
>
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