Re: [tied] Being Crude in English.
From: Darwin R. Garcia
I'm new to this forum and still basically in
I agree with you that the English language is incapable of
"proper(?)" vulgarity. Having lived all my life in India, I've found that most
native cuss words cannot be translated. The worst English abuses are
pathetically insipid and often used by conservative teenagers as substitutes for
the real thing. I am fluent in Hindi and familiar with Punjabi. Hindi
can be very vitriolic but Punjabi is a language that is difficult to speak
properly(?) without a fair dose of cuss words. Even worse, I find my friends
laugh at my attempts to cuss because of my accent and the fact that I'm not used
to the guttural syllables. So, it's not just the words and semantics that
make cusses effective but also the quality of the sound.
Interestingly, the majority of the native cusses deal with
incest with a lot of references to sodomy and homosexuality.
Conversely, English is not very elegant either. My personal
favourite is Urdu, a Hindi-Arabi derivative, the lingua franca of
romance, poetry, debate and intellect.
In my opinion, English occupies the middle area. A technical
user friendly language.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 2001 January 4 Thursday 10:48
Subject: [tied] Being Crude in
It is a usuality that the English language is rather poor
terms. I would agree with the statement.
all the major languages of the world, can salaciously
cope with the
world's oldest profession, and every possible 'position'
But for cursing, for delivering a strong line of disapproval to
another, English really is lacking. English is poor when it comes to
We have the George Carlin sequence (do a web
search), which gives us
all the naughty words.
But telling one man
off? Polish is pro'lly better. Since few men
really are muhfuhs (and this
being about the most horrific thing you
can say to a male in English), my
observation is that
native-English-speakers are hopelessly polite in
comparison to other
English is perhaps the most polite
of the world's current languages.
Is it perhaps that English is a
language that is hopelessly
intertwined with the concept of the