Re: [tied] PIE constellations

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4960
Date: 2000-12-06

Evening / Morning Stars
Greek Hesperos / Eosphoros (Phosphoros)
Latin Vesper / Lucifer (Jubar)
Sanskrit Ushanas (Shukra) (Venus)
Germanic ?
Slavic ?

----- Original Message -----
From: Anne Wright <annew@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] PIE constellations


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> Janeen Grohsmeyer wrote:
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> > Do the constellations and star-lore of the Greeks, Aryans, Celts, and
other
> > PIE-language groups show any similiarities? If so, have the PIE names
for
> > the constellations been reconstructed? How about the PIE names for the
> > pantheon?
> >
> >
>
> Here is a list of PIE words that contain the name of a constellaion.
>
> *argu- for Archer arrow [this one is not in the AHD CD dictionary ],
Sagitta
> or Sagittarius the Archer.
> *as- To burn, glow. Ara the Altar.
> *derk- To see. Draco the Dragon.
> *dhghem- Earth. for chameleon, Well-Hidden.
> *ekwo- Horse. probably for Equus the Foal.
> *ger[a]-2 To cry hoarsely; for Grus the Crane, and Corvus the Crow. This
> reconstructed word constantly puzzles me. Other than being birds, these
two
> bear little similarity. A Crane does not crow. A Crane is a wading bird...
A
> Crow lives on dry land and mythologically condemned to thirst...This one
> doesn't fit neatly into my idea that each constellation has it's own
specific
> family of words.
> *gn[ó]- To know. Norma. The Level and Square.
> *gwher- To heat, warm. Fornax Chemica, The Chemical Furnace.
> *gwou- Ox, bull, cow. Bootes, the Herdsman (a farmer).
> *ka[a]-id- To strike. Caelum, the sculptor's chisel.
> *kent- To prick, jab. This is generally accepted to be Centaurus, the
Centaur.
>
> *ker-1 Horn, head; Unicorn, the Unicorn.
> *ker[a]- To mix, confuse, cook. Crater, the Cup.
> *leuk- Light, brightness. Lynx, the Lynx.
> *n[á]u- Boat. Argo the Ship.
> *oi-no- One, unique. Unicorn, the Unicorn.
> *okt[ó](u) Eight. Octans, Hadley's Octant (an instrument to determine
stellar
> positions).
> *or- Large bird. Aquila, the eagle.
> *[ó]s- Mouth. Auriga, the Charioteer.
> *peig- To cut, mark (by incision). Pictor the Painter's Easel
> *pet[a]- To spread. Circinus, a Compass for drawing circles
> *segh- To hold. Ophiuchus the Serpent Bearer, the Snake Charmer.
> *skei- To cut, split. Scutum Sobiescianum. Sobieski's Shield.
> *sker-² Also ker-. To turn, bend. Corona the Crown.
> *spek- To observe. Telescopium the Telescope.
> *s[ú]- Pig. Hyades in Taurus.
> *tauro- Bull. Taurus.
> *trei- Three. Triangulum the Triangle.
> *wed-¹ Water; wet. Hydra and Hydrous Watersnakes.
> *w[l]kwo- Wolf. Lupus
>
> The features and mythological characters associated with the
constellations,
> and their prominent characteristics, lead to other word-stems. Some
> possibilities;
>
> *bher-1 To carry; also to bear children. Ursa Major.
> *gen[a]- To give birth, beget; Cepheus the King.
> *bhr[á]ter- Brother, male agnate. Gemini, the Twins.
> *bher1- to carry. Ursa Major, the Greater Bear.
> *arg- to shine, maybe for Argo the Ship.
> *gerbh- To scratch. Cancer, the Crab.
> *gwen- Woman. Cassiopeia the Queen.
> *kas- Gray. Lepus, the Hare.
> *kers- To run. Auriga the Chariot.
> *kleu- To hear. Hercules, the Kneeling Man, 12 labors.
> *wegh- To go, transport in a vehicle. wagon Ursa Major.
> *swen- To sound. Cygnus the Swan.
> *maghu- Young person of either sex. Virgo.
> *[r]tko- Bear. Ursa, Arcturus in Bootes, the Bear-Guide.
> *rep- To snatch. Corvus the Raven.
> *rei- To flow, run. Eridanus the River.
> *ghes- Hand. for Chiron who is associated with Centaurus.
>
> Most of our stars were named by the Arabs, out of 290 named stars, only
about
> thirty of them were named by others. Here is a list PIE words with
starnames.
>
> *dh[é]- To set, put. Latin facies. Facies is the nebula in the Archer's
face.
> *leb- To lick; lip. Labrum, delta star of Crater, the Cup.
> *kwon- Dog. Procyon, alpha star of Ursa Minor.
> *tel[a]- To lift, support, weigh; Atlas in Taurus.
> *m[á]-² Mother. Maia in the Pleiades, of the Taurus constellation. also
meg-
> Great, Maia.
> *pel[a]-¹ To fill; with derivatives referring to abundance and multitude.
> Pleiades in Taurus.
> *gembh- Tooth, nail. Gemma another name for Alphecca alpha star in Corona
> Borealis, the Crown.
> *man-² Hand. Manubrium omicron star of Sagittarius.
> *reg- To move in a straight line. Regulus the alpha star of Leo.
> *wer-³; To perceive, watch out for. Arcturus the Bear-Warden
> *med- To take appropriate measures. Medusa linked with beta star of
Perseus;
> Algol.
>
> My dictionary, AHD on CD, does not contain all the PIE words, so obviously
the
> list above is not complete.
>
> See tmy website for a list of constellations and stars
> http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/
>
> Anne Wright
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