Re: [tied] Catching up again...

>The y- is an automatic glide.

How exactly is it "automatic"?

>It's probably not there in Slavic vy
>(*u:, with w-glide), it's not there in oblique *usme (except in cases
>where *y- or *i- was prefixed in analogy with the nominative, such as
>Gmc. *izwis/*inkwis), and it wasn't there when the "extended >enclitic"
>forms (for want of a better term) were created: *ns-me -> >*nos, *nh3-we ->
>*noh3; *us-me -> *wos, *uh3-we -> *woh3. In other >words, the addition of
>*y- certainly postdates the development of
>*msme/*mh3we to *nsme/*nh3we (or acc.pl. *-ms > *-ns).

These extended enclitic forms are late creations and are quite obviously
built on the oblique forms which, may I say again, are reduced enclitic
versions of their nominative counterparts. Of course we won't find *y- in
those extended forms except via analogy with the nominative. Late
Post-Anatolian IE didn't like the idea of pronominal enclitics and made them
full words via vocalic "upgrading". The language even started developing
declension for these poor words but a solid, uniform system didn't quite
take hold before the final split of IE.

- gLeN

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