Re: [tied] Wine

From: Marc Verhaegen
Message: 4706
Date: 2000-11-13

>>There was no *pw. There can't be any *pw sound. The sound *p is
>>labial to begin with! How does one honestly distinguish *p and *pW? Any
>>examples of this in a HUMAN language?

What about French pois & pas?


>"Other languages, including certain Australian and Caucasian
>languages, permit labialization of a much wider rasnge of consonants,
>including those whose primary place of articulation is labial.
>Examples from Arrernte are given in table 10.10 [BILABIAL: pw, mw,
>pmw, mpw]", Ladefoged & Maddieson pp. 356-357. A labialized bilabial
>continuant [B] is a common variant of Dutch <w> (in Flemish).
>Labialized /pw/ is quite easy to make, in fact. Try it. Maybe you
>should first get your facts straight, and then accuse other people of
>being amateurish.
>Miguel Carrasquer Vidal