Re: [tied] Catching up again...

On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:21:04 +0100, "Piotr Gasiorowski"
<gpiotr@...> wrote:

>What about the equally irregular voicing in hebdo- (or Slavic sedm-)

Or Germanic "seven" (*sebm), for that matter. There's actually a `ayn
in the Semitic *seb3etum (< *sep'3etum, with glottalized *p'). If
`ayn was borrowed as *h3, we can derive Greek hebdomos from
*sépt@3mos.

>or dekad-, or Latin viginti?

-ginti: is from *-dkmtiH, where the voicing might have been caused by
the disappeared *d. There's also quadr-, which I've seen explained as
voicing after "schwa secundum", with some other plausibly looking
examples, but I forgot where I saw this.

>Ogdoos derives from ogdow-o-, which can scarcely be a reflex of *oktH3-o-s.

But *ok^t@3wos is possible in Greek.

>The very idea that some of the laryngeals were *distinctively* voiced (non-distinctively voiced ones would not have caused this kind of assimilation) is a Pandora's box opener. Two or three laryngeals are just enough for my taste.

De gustibus...

>In case you wonder, I don't accept the reconstruction of *pibeti 'drinks' as *pi-pH3-e-ti either, and generally object to explaining just about everything by positing "laryngeals with appendices" -- a futile formal game initiated by André Martinet.

The laryngeals with appendices are a different matter.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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