Re: [tied] Re: Euxine Event.; DOGS; CUINTL

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4138
Date: 2000-10-04

Sure, the right is K'WON-/K'UN-. That was my error. Even itzcuintl have -cuintl, that was similar to *k'won-, but can be a coincidence or some Nostratic root (I think I've alkready read something like qunja or kunja).
The article mentioned Dingo. It has the haplotype D18, present also in New Guinea Singing Dog and Siberian Husky. Surprisingly, according to the article it as not one of the oldest haplotypes. The study mentions 25 breeds of dogs and 26 wolves from Eurasia and America.
Joao SL
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The IE word for 'dog' is *k(u)wo:n, Acc. *kwonm, Gen. *kunos. The e-grade form *kwen- is unknown to me.
Anyway, your analysis of xoloitzcuintli is faulty. It's actually xolotl + itzcuintli = Nahuatl 'Xolotl's dog' (as far as I know, there are skulls of dogs resembling the xoloitzcuintli that date to over 3000 years BP). If, as seems to be the case, no indigenous American breeds were among those considered by the study you mentioned, no wonder that they are left out of the classification. I don't see any mention of the dingo either. It only menas that the classification is incomplete and can only be regarded as preliminary.
Joao wrote:
But Chihuaha was present in Mexico before the Spanish conquerors, wasn't it??? I don't believe it was brought by Spanish. Even Chihuahua was brought from Spaniards, Mexico had Xolotzcuintl (Mexican hairless dog, literally Dog of Xolotl, the Aztecan dog-headed god of dead). Is it CUINTL so similar to IE *KWEN-, isn't it? Mystery...