From: John Croft
> As I mentioned earlier, IE seems to have not a whisper ofThis is indeed very strong evidence for an Non Pontic Steppe origin.
> evidence to suggest a native flood myth. What we do have was
> borrowed. This silence reinforces the notion that the IE
> homeland was in North Central Europe.
> I won't reproduce John's valuable post here, but he brings upThis is my point exactly in the discussions with Glen. "Steppe"
> some interesting points. The genetics of the dog is very
> interesting. Unless we are to say the IEs came from Central
> Asia (unlikely), they had to come from Anatolia, via the
> Bosphorus Land Bridge, or had to enter via Iran east of the
> Caucusus at a rather late date. Whatever the case, the split
> from Uralic was likely someplace like Mesopotamia, or even
> further south.
> Glen should chew on this path of entry for a while. It makesI agree strongly with what you are posting here Mark. would think
> Tyrrhenian a stay-at-home language in Anatolia, whereas IE
> pushed itself north before returning southward millennia
> later. I suspect the IE's moved around the lake shore, then
> followed the Danube up into Central Europe, following a
> hunter-gatherer lifestyle, modified by contacts with
> agriculturalists. The language[s] spoken along the lakeshore
> are a mystery, but Kartvalian must have been one of them, and
> something related to Urartian must have been there too.
> The founders of Central Danube agriculture, ca 5300, wouldInteresting.
> seem to have been descended from refugees from the Black Sea
> flood. I imagine the archaeological record from this time
> needs to be thoroughly re-assessed. These people are usually
> not considered to be IE-speakers.
> This is fascinating stuff. Changes in sea level, the climate,Agreed. I cannot await to here Glen's cut on all of this stuff.
> and hydrological features all need to be thoroughly