Re: [tied] Nereus and nerove

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4120
Date: 2000-10-04

And about NORNIR? NORN can be from *NRT-NU- "strong"?
Personally, I think the name NE:REUS was "constructed" after NEREIS. Maybe Ne:reis means "water nymph", and later was re-interpreted as meaning "daughter of Ne:reus".
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From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Nereus and nerove

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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Nereus and nerove

But this 'strong' root is really *xner- with an initial laryngeal. It makes a difference in Greek, where one would expect *x@...:us > *andreus rather than Ne:reus. The long e: of Ne:reus is another difficulty (also if you want to connect this name with the items below).
Hydronimic *noru- is especially well attested in Baltic (e.g. Prussian Nerus, Nerusa, Polish Narew [a large tributary of the Vistula] < Sudovian *naru:-), though it isn't clear to me what it's supposed to mean. Some etymologists connect it with the root *ner- 'dive, penetrate'. I wonder if Germanic *naru- 'narrow' might be somehow related (although the Narew is a remarkably wide river).
Nerthus < *nér-tu- was a chthonic goddess and it's rather difficult to connect her semantically with diving, except into earth-holes ;). But I wouldn't exclude the possibility that this name is related to *xner- (cf. Celtic *ner-t-o- 'strength').
Petr wrote:

After all, why couldn't it be also connected with the Germanic goddess Nerthus described by the Romans (Tacitus?)? If all these words were derived from a root *ner- meaning something like `(life-giving) strength', they would be also cognate to the
Osco-Umbrian word _ner_, `man'...